In this conversation I am speaking to Abbas and another Muslim about the standard classic subject, which has come about because of the super well known verse in the Quran, which is surah 4:34 and it is about how a Muslim man should deal with a woman, who he fears rebellion from. I decided to revisit this subject, because Abbas had recently spoken to Hatun about this subject, but as expected, she only bought out the standard Quran verse and the usual well known hadith's, but she did not seem to know about some of the extra ones that I had found, so I decided to see if Abbas could handle them.
The reason why it is so easy to catch out Muslims, with hadith's that show up their prophet in a bad light to western people, is because the Muslim scholars have concentrated on only bringing out hadiths, that make their prophet seem to be as peaceful as Jesus, so it has now been left to the Christians, to find the hadiths that show some of the evil things that Muhammad did do.
These hadiths that I have discovered, which are related to how women are mistreated in Islam, do make me wonder how Muslim women can feel secure, when their men can actually get away with beating the, with the women then not having any kind of legitimate protection under sharia law. Now some fake Muslims will of course make up some non existing rules, to say that the man can be punished for hitting his woman, but they will of course be talking about a fake Islam that they have made up inside their head.